Cepco Tool 100-EBTYS Eb Ty Original kit, 100-Piece
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Tools and Hardware Reviews of Cepco Tool 100-EBTYS Eb Ty Original kit, 100-Piece
Customer Review: Failed and now I have a major project for Spring
Summary: 1 Stars
Update: New failures this winter (see below)
On a cold winter day I heard a strange noise out on my back deck. I didn't see anything at the time, but the sound was the screw heads pulling trough the plastic EB-TY clips I used to install the ironwood planks. I now have a 3" high speed bump thanks to the failed clips. This is the deck's second winter. I have the choice dismantling and reinstalling the planks using better metal hidden fasteners or a much messing up the cosmetics of the nice deck with drilling through the boards and using plugs to fill the countersunk holes. Needless to say I wish I had gone for the metal clips that I had found on the web instead of the plastic EB-TY product. I wonder how many of the positive reviews here will change a couple of years down the road?
January 2011. I see that Simpson bought EB-TY, or a least they've licensed the product and offer it as their own. I've had two new failures this winter of long board pairs on my ironwood deck. I repaired the original popped boards by removing them, using Ipe-clip fasteners that have metal inserts to replace the EB-TY clips, and then countersink screwing the boards because there's no way to replace all the clips on a board short of completely tearing apart the entire deck. I think that moisture in the wood expands and exaggerates the wood's natural tendency to twist. And the plastic clips also become more brittle in the cold so that's when they fail. If you don't want to do a lot of ongoing repair to you hidden clip deck, I recommend that you look into strong metal fasteners like the Ipe-clip extreme or perhaps the Tiger Claw clips that are spec'd for ipe and ironwood. What a nightmare.
Customer Review: EBTY Hidden fastener system
Summary: 4 Stars
I have use this product on two composite decks. It is definitely more labor intensive than the traditional way of screwing down decking, but the end results are far superior. Time wise it takes approximately 2 to 3 times as long to fasten down the deck boards using the EBTY hidden fasten system compared to screwing them down from the top. If the composite decking already comes with a grove then the labor time will be less. I used 5/4"x 6" Timbertech decking. Using a biscuit jointer I had to cut for each EBTY biscuit. The Tiger Claw hidden deck fastener system is a faster system to install. However, there is alot more pounding on the deck to set the Tiger Claw fastener and often times the composite deck(I never used it on pressure-treated or a hardwood like Ipe)board will not set properly. In the future, I will probably use the EBTY system, but with a precut groove on the composite decking. More and more composite deck manufacturers are cutting the grooves at the factory.Customer Review: Easy to use - worth the effort
Summary: 5 Stars
I researched several types of hidden fasteners prior to my purchase, and finally decided on the Eb-Ty. Boy am I glad I did. This is the easiest to use hidden fastener system out there. Granted, it takes two people for installation (one to push the boards together and one to fasten the screw), but what deck isn't built with at least two people?!? We put together a 350 square foot deck in three weekends, taking our time. It could have easily been done in two weekends. If your boards are not already grooved to accept the biscuits, I recommend a good quality biscuit joiner. Just set the joiner and go. I found the biscuits to be very forgiving if you don't get the slot cut exactly right. The result is a beautiful looking deck that is worth the cost of the fasteners. I highly recommend this product.Customer Review: eb-ty works fine as long as slots cut precisely
Summary: 5 Stars
Eb-ty's worked fine with the exception of stripping the heads off quite a few screws, but plenty of extra screws are included. What is more critical is getting the slot cut exactly. The composite deck I was using had a slight crown, so some slot cuts were slightly off. This made it difficult to push the next deck board into place. In retrospect, it would have been a good idea to have slots cut the length of the board. But that isn't something I would suggest anyone do on their own. Composite deck is very flexible and difficult to run through a table saw. It would be good to find a lumber company to do the milling work.Customer Review: Excellent Results & helps protect your Joists
Summary: 5 Stars
I have used EB-Ty on 5 decks now all composite and in different climate zones they are and excellent way to end up with a beautiful deck. All my customers and myself (1st deck) have sold more jobs for me. Also if you want to go the extra mile install sheet metal strips on top of you joists and girders to cover them with a 45 degree 1/2 lip on each side of the strip you'll have a life time deck if you use treated lumber as well or have access to the underside of the deck to treat the joists and girders with a preservative every 5 years or so. We use a preservative mfg by Flood available at Lowes.